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I also want to be included in this discussion, but I do not want to commit my
thoughts to writing. So, count me in. Michelle Enron North America Corp. From: Bob Sparger @ ENRON 09/25/2000 09:42 AM To: David Oxley/HOU/ECT@ECT cc: Bruce Van Cleve/HOU/EES@EES@ECT, Neil Davies/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Drew C Lynch/LON/ECT@ECT, Cindy Olson/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Robert Jones/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Marla Barnard/Enron Communications@Enron Communications@ECT, Mary Joyce/HR/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Scott Gilchrist/ENRON_DEVELOPMENT@ENRON_DEVELOPMENT@ECT, Michelle Cash/HOU/ECT@ECT, Brian Schaffer/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Sheila Knudsen/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Gerry Gibson/Corp/Enron@Enron, Tim O'Rourke/Corp/Enron@Enron, Pam Butler/HR/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Andrea Yowman/Corp/Enron Subject: Re: Unnecessary Hiearchy equals 10X Bureaucracy David: I would characterise my view as "treat the causes not the symptoms". Bottomline line, change and innovation are good. Let's capture the good available to us in innovation. With respect to free radicals, something is missing which creates instability, negativity and a highly reactive state. For this reason, free radicals are very "short-lived." Let's avoid short-lived results. Regards, Bob David Oxley@ECT 09/25/2000 09:24 AM To: Bruce Van Cleve/HOU/EES@EES cc: Bob Sparger/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Neil Davies/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Drew C Lynch/LON/ECT@ECT, Cindy Olson/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Robert Jones/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Marla Barnard/Enron Communications@Enron Communications, Mary Joyce/HR/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Scott Gilchrist/ENRON_DEVELOPMENT@ENRON_DEVELOPMENT, Michelle Cash/HOU/ECT@ECT, Brian Schaffer/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Sheila Knudsen/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Gerry Gibson/Corp/Enron@Enron, Tim O'Rourke/Corp/Enron@Enron, Pam Butler/HR/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Andrea Yowman/Corp/Enron@ENRON Subject: Re: Unnecessary Hiearchy equals 10X Bureaucracy Gerry, Would you please organise a gathering or an alternate forum for this discussion. Based on the various messages I believe the following have expressed an interest in being involved: Drew Capitalist Lynch Neil Free market radical Davies Bruce I couldn't think of a witty reposte Van Cleve Pam Just the facts Butler Robbie I'm too busy to reply to your silly emails but include me in the debate Jones Andrea Lets be careful Yowman Bob Lets be extra careful Sparger and me.......so far. Now for this weeks debate...................................."I propose no Commercial staff may or can move between Op Co's until January or February, unless the poaching Op Co OTC has approached the sponsoring Op Co OTC in advance of contacting the employee and the move is subsequently sanctioned by the Exec Committee". David Bruce Van Cleve@EES 09/25/2000 07:43 AM To: David Oxley/HOU/ECT@ECT cc: Bob Sparger/Corp/Enron@ENRON@ECT, Neil Davies/Corp/Enron@ENRON@ECT, Drew C Lynch/LON/ECT@ECT, Cindy Olson/Corp/Enron@ENRON@ECT, Robert Jones/Corp/Enron@ENRON@ECT, Marla Barnard/Enron Communications@Enron Communications@ECT, Mary Joyce/HR/Corp/Enron@ENRON@ECT, Scott Gilchrist/ENRON_DEVELOPMENT@ENRON_DEVELOPMENT@ECT, Michelle Cash/HOU/ECT@ECT, Brian Schaffer/Corp/Enron@ENRON@ECT, Sheila Knudsen/Corp/Enron@ENRON@ECT, Gerry Gibson/Corp/Enron@Enron@ECT, Tim O'Rourke/Corp/Enron@Enron@ECT, Pam Butler/HR/Corp/Enron@ENRON@ECT, Andrea Yowman/Corp/Enron@ENRON@ECT Subject: Re: Unnecessary Hiearchy equals 10X Bureaucracy HR folks, Ralph Waldo Emerson, Adam Smith, Karl Marx, etc.: I too would like to be involved in this discussion. I would comment that I support any type of broad band structure vs. a "Hay type" system. Having been part of organizations having various types of both, payment, movement and placement of people is simply, much easier with broad banding in a relatively flat organization. Bruce David Oxley@ECT 09/22/2000 08:12 AM To: Bob Sparger/Corp/Enron@ENRON cc: Neil Davies/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Drew C Lynch/LON/ECT@ECT, Cindy Olson/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Bruce Van Cleve/HOU/EES@EES, Robert Jones/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Marla Barnard/Enron Communications@Enron Communications, Mary Joyce/HR/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Scott Gilchrist/ENRON_DEVELOPMENT@ENRON_DEVELOPMENT, Michelle Cash/HOU/ECT@ECT, Brian Schaffer/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Sheila Knudsen/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Gerry Gibson/Corp/Enron@Enron, Tim O'Rourke/Corp/Enron@Enron, Pam Butler/HR/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Andrea Yowman/Corp/Enron@ENRON Subject: Re: Unnecessary Hiearchy equals 10X Bureaucracy OK. Great. However, in our laudable desire to be practical and enter this debate understanding some of the undisputed challenges a radical approach might present, LETS NOT KILL RADICAL THOUGHT OR IDEAS PLEASE! At least initially lets get all the opinions out there before we place any limits or timeframes or qualifications. David (It's revolution - far out!) Enron Capital & Trade Resources Corp. From: Bob Sparger @ ENRON 09/22/2000 07:40 AM To: David Oxley/HOU/ECT@ECT cc: Neil Davies/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Drew C Lynch/LON/ECT@ECT, Cindy Olson/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Bruce Van Cleve/HOU/EES@EES@ECT, Robert Jones/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Marla Barnard/Enron Communications@Enron Communications@ECT, Mary Joyce/HR/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Scott Gilchrist/ENRON_DEVELOPMENT@ENRON_DEVELOPMENT@ECT, Michelle Cash/HOU/ECT@ECT, Brian Schaffer/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Sheila Knudsen/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Gerry Gibson/Corp/Enron@Enron, Tim O'Rourke/Corp/Enron@Enron, Pam Butler/HR/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Andrea Yowman/Corp/Enron Subject: Re: Unnecessary Hiearchy equals 10X Bureaucracy David: Would love to be involved in this as a view of process and change opportunity. We do not want to react to, and treat, the symptoms (number of absolute categories), without full consideration of the root cause and setting a plan to address it. The real change issue as I see it is job description and "position" classification. The real project is to rationalise the job structures within Enron - simplify wherever possible. Target a cut from 24 categories to say 12. This impacts not only the PRC, but how we look at compensation across the levels, function performed (e.g., commercial, commercial support, technical) and specialization areas (e.g., legal, accounting, IT, engineering, HR, etc.) With respect to current yearend PRC, it is hard to change the agreed process midstream. It is doable if we can show where/how certain of the categories are "equivalent" and should be considered together. Only caveat is to ensure we do not render the root cause untreatable by addressing symptoms. Tim / Gerry: How would you like to approach this? Two key groups we need to link in are Compensation (Mary Joyce, Pam Butler) and PRC (Gina Corteselli, Andrea Yowman). Let talk early next week. Regards, Bob David Oxley@ECT 09/21/2000 02:49 PM To: Neil Davies/Corp/Enron@ENRON cc: Drew C Lynch/LON/ECT@ECT, Cindy Olson/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Bruce Van Cleve/HOU/EES@EES, Robert Jones/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Marla Barnard/Enron Communications@Enron Communications, Mary Joyce/HR/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Scott Gilchrist/ENRON_DEVELOPMENT@ENRON_DEVELOPMENT, Michelle Cash/HOU/ECT@ECT, Brian Schaffer/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Sheila Knudsen/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Gerry Gibson/Corp/Enron@Enron, Tim O'Rourke/Corp/Enron@Enron, Pam Butler/HR/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Andrea Yowman/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Bob Sparger/Corp/Enron@Enron Subject: Re: Unnecessary Hiearchy equals 10X Bureaucracy Tim/Gerry/Bob, Would you facilitate this discussion? David Neil Davies@ENRON 09/21/2000 02:41 PM To: Drew C Lynch/LON/ECT@ECT cc: David Oxley/HOU/ECT@ECT, Cindy Olson/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Bruce Van Cleve/HOU/EES@EES@ECT, Robert Jones/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Marla Barnard/Enron Communications@Enron Communications@ECT, Mary Joyce/HR/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Scott Gilchrist/ENRON_DEVELOPMENT@ENRON_DEVELOPMENT@ECT, Michelle Cash/HOU/ECT@ECT, Brian Schaffer/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Sheila Knudsen/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Gerry Gibson/Corp/Enron@Enron, Tim O'Rourke/Corp/Enron@Enron, Pam Butler/HR/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Andrea Yowman/Corp/Enron@ENRON Subject: Re: Unnecessary Hiearchy equals 10X Bureaucracy Commie and Capitalist It seems to me that both ideas and philosophies have merits - it is all down to how you assign value to roles - in ENA commercial deal making function this is very easy to do - how much they profit they generate - grade has very little place in this world. In other areas it is harder and grading provides a methodology (far from perfect) for grouping and providing structure around a set of skills and how they are valued in the organisation. To lose them without providing some other method of measuring value e.g. a more robust PRC process, would run the risk of making a sometimes too subjective process even more subjective. Give me a small number of loose grades anytime. So we should aim for nearer to 8/9 and head away from the 24 - having 7 levels for admins does smack of bureacracy. Would be interested to be involved in looking at this Neil (free market radical) Drew C Lynch@ECT 09/21/2000 11:41 AM To: David Oxley/HOU/ECT@ECT cc: Cindy Olson/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Bruce Van Cleve/HOU/EES@EES, Robert Jones/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Marla Barnard/Enron Communications@Enron Communications, Mary Joyce/HR/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Scott Gilchrist/ENRON_DEVELOPMENT@ENRON_DEVELOPMENT, Michelle Cash/HOU/ECT@ECT, Brian Schaffer/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Sheila Knudsen/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Gerry Gibson/Corp/Enron@Enron, Tim O'Rourke/Corp/Enron@Enron, Neil Davies/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Pam Butler/HR/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Andrea Yowman/Corp/Enron@ENRON Subject: Re: Unnecessary Hiearchy equals 10X Bureaucracy David, Obviously I missed this meeting, but Scott has been good enough to fill in some of the details for me. In concept I agree that less levels is better, but I am not sure that we can get it down to 5. The process does warrant further discussion and I would like to be included. DCL (Capitalist) David Oxley 21/09/2000 17:22 To: Cindy Olson/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Drew C Lynch/LON/ECT@ECT, Bruce Van Cleve/HOU/EES@EES, Robert Jones/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Marla Barnard/Enron Communications@Enron Communications, Mary Joyce/HR/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Scott Gilchrist/ENRON_DEVELOPMENT@ENRON_DEVELOPMENT, Michelle Cash/HOU/ECT@ECT, Brian Schaffer/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Sheila Knudsen/Corp/Enron@ENRON cc: Gerry Gibson/Corp/Enron@Enron, Tim O'Rourke/Corp/Enron@Enron, Neil Davies/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Pam Butler/HR/Corp/Enron@ENRON, Andrea Yowman/Corp/Enron@ENRON Subject: Unnecessary Hiearchy equals 10X Bureaucracy I'm disappointed that we haven't followed up on the conversation we had a few weeks ago relating to the 24 hierarchical levels we apparently preside over here at Enron. My view remains we should have a strong ambition to significantly reduce and simplify the current grade structures. Far from adding additional levels a fundamental analysis should be made of the need for any more than 5 from top to bottom. In this regard I would lay down the following challenge for your comments: why would the following structure not work better in promoting a flat, entrepreneurial, open, fast paced organisation, while also significantly reducing the bureaucracy: Number of PRC levels Commercial Support/Technical Key 1 MD/VP Same Collapse 2 2 Deal Makers Management Collapse 3 3 A&A's Specialists/Consultants/Professionals Collapse 3/5 4 Admin (non- Exempt) Same Collapse 7! David (Commie) Oxley
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