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From:brianc@saltgrass.com
To:joe.parks@enron.com
Subject:RE: age of joe's deer
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Date:Thu, 7 Mar 2002 14:38:14 -0800 (PST)

Java Joe...What?

Anyway, call me about your "idea". Cell b/w 5:00-5:45. 713-817-1661

-----Original Message-----
From: Parks, Joe [mailto:Joe.Parks@ENRON.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 4:00 PM
To: Brian Constantine; Erik Wollam; knipe3@msn.com; cmccomb@austin-mccomb.c=
om; kmccomb@austin-mccomb.com
Subject: RE: age of joe's deer

brian didnt age/guess that your 10 point was 5 1/2?

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Constantine [mailto:brianc@saltgrass.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 3:50 PM
To: Erik Wollam; knipe3@msn.com; cmccomb@austin-mccomb.com; Parks, Joe;
kmccomb@austin-mccomb.com
Subject: RE: age of joe's deer


I think you are right on there...I'm just telling you that if you had seen =
that 10 point I shot "on the hoof", not dead on the ground w/ a cut out low=
er jaw for inspection, you would have said "Damn, that's an old deer."=20
Compared to his Identical Offspring. Same body size, Same EXACT antler form=
ation (9" g-2's, with a 2 inch kicker coming out sideways from his left G-2=
, and crab claw) The only difference b/w these 2 deer was the young one had=
about 2 inches more spread, and about 15 inches more total antlers) Mass w=
as more on my deer, indicating age. The BIG difference was standing side by=
side, the younger one looked like a "thoroughbread Horse", while mine look=
ed like a mule...if you can understand that. That being said, if we think t=
hat we are underestimating age on the hoof and putting all the criteria tog=
ether about what "formula" makes a old deer look old, I would have to say t=
hat My 10 point was "Mature and on his way down" while the young one (Same =
deer that Keith has seen, too) is "Mature and on his way up". The last thin=
g I have to say about that was that the "Young" deer of the two was definit=
ely the "dominant" of the two as well. He was aggressive towards my "ol' ba=
stard" and the old guy didn't want any part of him...The young one was pass=
ed on harvesting by both Keith and myself and I chose to harvest the older =
one of the two. Put in the same arena with a bunch of does and his younger =
sibling, that younger sibling was gonna get the chance to "pour the Chili" =
while the old guy snuck in from the brush, got bullied away by the "stud", =
ate enough to survive, and silently sneaked away. Meanwhile the younger stu=
d, ate and chased does around to his hearts content, no worries about anyth=
ing. Which deer needed to get shot in that scenario?
My final answer...my deer..7.5 yrs or older. His son, 4.5 and about to be a=
Texas Big Game Award winner next season if he lives through the summer and=
doesn't "disappear" like a lot of the other bucks we never see again from =
year to year.=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Erik Wollam [mailto:erwollam@hotmail.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 2:08 PM
To: knipe3@msn.com; cmccomb@austin-mccomb.com; Joe.Parks@enron.com; kmccomb=
@austin-mccomb.com; Brian Constantine
Subject: age of joe's deer

Went to BFE with Joe during lunch to pick up his european mount of his 9pt.=
He aged Joes deer at 8.5. We may be underaging alot of these deer on the h=
oof.
The guy does nice work and the prices were reasonable.




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