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Jay -
Thanks for your note. This definitely falls into the "(b)" category. The problem is that there are sooooo many things in the b pile already that I can't tell you exactly when this will be resolved. Having said that, I agree that the weather information is probably the least risky, but it might be helpful if you were to visit their sites and see if there is any comment about further use of the information posted there. As for the others, a little additional information would be helpful. For instance, I know we were in discussions with NGTL at one time and were unwilling to sign the letter they asked for. Was there ever any follow-up with them on that? Is there any correspondence at all (it doesn't have to look like an official contract). Is the Telerate information also available from other sources? Is it possible that Telerate gets it out really fast and that is their advantage but others are right behind with the same or very similar information? Do we have an agreement of any kind with Telerate regarding the services they provide to us? Thanks for your help and continuing attention to this - I agree we should be trying to do this the "right" way. Mark James Bruce 03/30/2000 02:33 AM To: Mark Taylor/HOU/ECT@ECT cc: Subject: Legal Issues with EnronOnline Newsticker Dear Mark (back from South America?) I received this email from Donna Greif. It explains the sources for her data which she puts on EnronOnline every day. As best I know, Mark, we don't have any agreement with any of these people for content that we place online. I'm not too concerned about the weather (it's from the Canadian and American governments) but I am concerned about the NGTL data and the data we get from Telerate. We have a disclaimer Online for the NGTL data, saying that it's our reproduction and not a representation of what they have on their own site (their own site which can be accessed through a password only!), but I think this proves, rather than refutes, the fact that we're redistributing their data without a right to do so. The same applies for Telerate--we don't even give them recognition--we just post their numbers on our site. I know you're a busy man, and I'm sure you're dealing with things like lawsuits against Enron by South American governments, or something like that, but this issue should (a) be dropped, because you believe that it's really not that important or (b) resolved, becuase you think it is. Please tell me how I can help, or if we should let this issue drop. If I don't hear from you, I'll assume that you don't think it's an important issue. Thanks Jay ---------------------- Forwarded by James Bruce/LON/ECT on 30/03/2000 09:20 --------------------------- To: James Bruce/LON/ECT@ECT cc: Candace Spencer/CAL/ECT@ECT, Terri Brian/CAL/ECT@ECT, Ross Prevatt/HOU/ECT@ECT, Rahil Jafry/HOU/ECT@ECT, Daniel Diamond/HOU/ECT@ECT, Frank L Davis/HOU/ECT@ECT, npetter@enron.com, Sheri Thomas/HOU/ECT@ECT, Matt Motsinger/HOU/ECT@ECT, Lucy Ortiz/HOU/ECT@ECT Subject: Re: EnronOnline Newsticker Jay, In your original email (attached below), you requested my source of US Nat Gas Stats that are posted as a newsticker item on the website. Please note, I would have been more than happy to provide you with source details on the Canadian Weather Forecasts and NGTL Pipeline Data if it was part of your original request. US Natural Gas Statistics (Gas in Storage & Cumulative Heating Degree Days) * My source is the Producer Newsletter distributed by the Mid-Marketing Department (Ross Prevatt & Dan Diamond are both part of that team). For your convenience, I've attached a copy for your records * The Producer Newsletter is distributed on a weekly basis (Monday nights or Tuesday morning) and is faxed. - the Mid-Marketing Department gets those numbers from several different sources. - I called Ross again today to re-verify. He confirmed the following for me: * Gas Storage data comes from a direct feed from Telerate. * Lucy Oritz passes on the cumulative heating degree days to Ross. < Her source is National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration < web address = http://www.crh.noaa.gov/grr/wfolocat.htm - Should you require any additional details and need to make contact with Ross again..... I did take the liberty of explaining who you are, the group you represent as well as why you were needing this information. I am sure he will be fully receptive and understand the nature of your question should you need to contact him again. Canadian Weather Forecasts (4 day forecast for 5 cities) NGTL Pipeline Data (Prior day deliveries, etc.) * Candace Spencer & Terri Brian in Enron Canada's office pull this information from two different sources. * They pull this information together, and fax updates us each morning. - NGTL Pipeline Data is pulled from http://www.nrgexpressway.com/ngtl/index.htm * You must have a password to gain access to this information. - Canadian Weather Forecast data is pulled from http://weather.ec.gc.ca/alberta_e.shtml * Upon reaching the site, you would select the appropriate City. * Once in the city, scroll down to get the weather forecast data. My apologies for any mis-communications on your original request. Feel free to call me if you are in need of more details (x3-9517). Thanks, dg P.S. Currently, Noel Petterson is updating the website. His back-up is Matt Motsinger. In additions (just an FYI), this will be my last week with the EnronOnline team. Please forward any future requests to Frank Davis. ========================================================================== James Bruce 03/29/2000 09:48 AM To: Donna Greif/HOU/ECT@ECT cc: Subject: EnronOnline Newsticker Following our exchange of emails two weeks ago, I spoke with Ross (whom you suggested), but he didn't know of you & didn't think that anything he produced was sent to you. He suggested that I contact Dan Diamond, who wrote back saying that he didn't know anything either but that I should contact Rahil Jafry. The only problem of course is that I work with Rahil, and I'm trying to find this information in response to a discussion that I had with him! So, could you tell me exactly where you get your information from, for the following items: Canadian Weather Forecasts (4 day forecast for 5 cities) NGTL Pipeline Data (Prior day deliveries, etc.) US Natural Gas Stastics (Gas in Storage & Cumulative Heating Degree Days) Even if you don't know the specific source, if you could tell me how you get the information, then I'll try to follow it up. So, for example, 'Each day at 6am I receive a fax from 713.853.2297 with a list of numbers. I take these numbers and put them in the Canadian ...' Sorry to keep bothering you, but this is a potentially serious issue for us--we need to know exactly where we're getting our content from, and no one seems to know! So anything that you can do to help would be appreciated greatly. Thanks in advance Jay ========================================================================== From: Donna Greif 03/13/2000 10:30 AM The EnronOnline team gets those numbers from the weekly Newsletter distributed the ENA Commercial Team. Ross Prevatt is the individual who actually puts the information together. In talking with Ross this morning, that information is taken from a Telerate feed (the Telerate feeder gets the info from daily/weekly/monthly publications). Ross did not give me the specific companies that publish the information. Feel free to call Ross directly if you need additional information. Thanks, dg ========================================================================== James Bruce 03/13/2000 04:05 AM Dear Donna (Following the voicemail that I left for you on Friday) I was wondering if you could tell me whether or not the US Gas Storage data & the cumulative CDD/HDD data are taken from inside Enron only? (I'm asking because Paul Goddard has encouraged me to update our letters of consent for content that we carry on the website.) Many thanks, Jay
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